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We came back.

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Please.

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Okay, so I don’t know what was said, I’m
sure she gave you the brief rundown.

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But anyways, Alberto pretty much, yeah, you
got what was funny is I was talking to him

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about two weeks ago and I got a hold of him

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on Discord and I was saying, hey, we want

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to redo the interview because we actually

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get done it about 6 to 8 weeks ago, but we

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lost the original file.

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And it sucked because it was like almost
two hours worth of recording.

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You’d have to edit, but there’s a lot
there.

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Anyway, so I talked about, yeah, we need to
redo it, and we need to get something for

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air soon because we need time to feel and

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he said, he goes, yeah, this is amazing.

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So this is perfect.
I’m glad he lost the original file.

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It was damaged or whatever and I said,
well, he goes, he literally had got off the

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phone an hour before.

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With some lawyers and people close to the
state of the Uruguayan judicial system.

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And basically said, yeah, that his case has
been well-known.

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And it’s been talked about

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internally. He did not know this.

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Based on all the stuff he’s been pushing
out over the last couple of years.

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And that being the case, they said there’s
been a movement internally to make changes

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in that they had made a breakthrough and

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there would get a basically just change the

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way that they prosecute and judge these

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types of cases based on

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all the bullshit that happened with him.

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So it is a case that they cite frequently,
supposedly.

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And it’s in its multiple, I think it’s
multiple countries involved in this.

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Not just your way.

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So he’s basically in a nutshell, changed
the system for good.

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Like it will now be different because of
what he went through because he got his

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story out and it got well-known, talked

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about and so there’s that and the thing

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that doesn’t get pointed out enough I think

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in Alberto’s case is that he lost a lot of

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money.

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Remember he had his digital wallet.

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That’s a huge part of it.
He had over a $1 million in crypto.

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That when he was returned his stuff from
the state, it was gone.

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Then there are disrupted, like, I don’t
know where it is.

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Like the chain of custody was like there
was missing paperwork and stuff.

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So basically, the state stole it from him.

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Or somebody inside of the state.

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And so not only did he lose his job, he
lost his relationship because his

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girlfriend was arrested too, and she was

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completely disheveled over it and just the

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while it’s been her return, I don’t think.

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Because they would have never been able to
break those

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key phrases. I forget.

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Yeah, there was something missing and so in
any case, so he lost his freedom.

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He basically lost his career.

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You could say he lost his.

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Mental stability, of course.

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This is a tragic and then his girlfriend’s
gone.

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All these things that he had in his
backpack and oh yeah and he was really in

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the crypto loop in a sense blown up and he

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does has nothing to show for that.

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So it’s tragic.

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And so when you think of the guy lost over
a $1 million or more.

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Anyway, that part was not really emphasized
enough I don’t think in his storytelling or

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retelling of the story,

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but now there is a civil movement.

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He was contacted by somebody else that they
are pressing charges against the head of

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Interpol at that time.

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Looking for restitution.

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Fuck.

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Yep.

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So they’re looking to get, it’s not a
guaranteed thing.

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And it’s going to take probably a year more
to go through the courts, but they’re suing

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for damages for financial damages.

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So this is, yeah, that is big.

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Much more than I described it as I knew
that I said right at the end.

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I know there was an Interpol thing,

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but I didn’t quite catch it because Alberto
played.

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The last segment of your interview with him
into the space, but you know, sometimes it

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can be hard to hear everything, especially

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if it’s coming through from a different.

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Device or whatever.

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You’re chatting this morning and people
just kept popping in and it was just, you

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know, we just got detoured from it and yes,

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I’m glad you’ve clarified that.

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Yeah.
Yeah, so, you know, stay tuned on that one.

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But again, will he get it all back?

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Probably not, but he could get some portion
of it

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back. And that would be huge, too.

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So, you know, in the end, we’ll just say
that when alone would set precedent, you

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know, and then would make it.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that would have ripples.

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Major ripples.
Yeah, definitely.

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Even if it was like for a dollar, Bryce,
think about then that makes it shows the

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validity of the whole situation.

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And then that makes it that brings it to
then the Netflix Raoul et cetera.

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And what without a problem

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could be green lit. I believe.

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I want to ask you, I’ll see you said that

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was that I didn’t think about the time that
was perfect.

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She’s saying, you know, Alberto could be in
legal textbooks going forward in this case.

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Probably will be.

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And in his he said,

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wow. Who knows exactly?

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Well, he said so kind of poignantly it was,
he said, when he exited person, he was just

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an ex convict with a cell phone.

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And that’s where he started.

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And that the value is that anybody through
his story, you know, this is, again, this

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is the compelling part, is that if you have

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a, if you have, if you’ve been wrong, and

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you are patient in voice, what happened to

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you through the proper channels or anyway,

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he was just anybody

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that would listen to him.

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That there is a chance you can change the
system.

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One person can.

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And to be honest, and I told him in the
interview, I said, I didn’t see this

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coming.

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Because it’s so low percentage.

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Because he’s basically fighting the
government.

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And he could have easily shrunk up and said
nothing and just try to get along with his

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life, maybe try to expunge his record,

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which that did happen.

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But it’d be very easy just to kind of stay
quiet and shrivel up in the corner.

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And he’s still struggles.
We all know this.

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You know, he has PTSD and other things over
this.

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So he’s admitted in every therapy but in
therapy for years, it’s going to take time.

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But yeah, I just think if he can get some
kind of reasonable restitution here.

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And all these other changes stick in the
system.

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That is a great story to be told.

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It hits all the major things that people
want to see.

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And Netflix or that’s it.

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Even the when alone gets that for him.

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And this is no disrespect to Alberto
whatsoever, but the way you’ve just

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articulated that was beautiful.

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And I think that’s perhaps.

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You know, he has this very emotional when
he gets all funny old, somebody else will

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tell you about in the space and then.

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But when he does get down to it, yes,

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he can tell his story. Beautifully.

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But the way you just articulated that, I
think it’s a real benefit to have somebody

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like yourself just no, thank you.

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And I did that.

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Thank you.
I’m just complimenting you.

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Between the and me, I think he really
enjoys people talking about his story.

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Well, of course he does.
I mean, well, yeah.

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It’s important.
It’s important.

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Absolutely.
But it’s helpful sometimes.

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And you hear it, you hear his story from
other people’s voices in not his story, but

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like what Bryce just described and told us

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what happened.

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It’s the impact that that’s good I’d really
like to have.

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Monetize that that clip just from there.

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That little speech from Bryce.

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Because it’s very authentic.

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You could hear just, yeah, I think it’s
important for all of us, actually.

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I think, because we’re good friends and I’m
much appreciated that.

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Well, I mean, I already have, I mean, me
and Ariel are the radio had already

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The podcast that I’m suggesting.

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No, no, no.

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What I was saying is that we’re going to
modify the podcast in it.

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And we talked about adding a new intro and
an outro.

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So that something like that might be part
of the outro.

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And what I did during the interview too, to
your point, was that Alberto does have a

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compelling story, but English

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is not his first language.

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And when he gets rolling, it’s hard to
keep, he goes, he’s very the most.

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that. It

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was a challenge.

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And then further is what I would do is
about every, I don’t know, 5 minutes or so

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I would just reset and say, okay, so what

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you’re telling me is, okay, Interpol showed

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up and blah blah blah because you know he

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keeps going on and on and on and on and on.

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And he kind of goes down these tangents and
because he’s got a lot of detail, right?

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So I try to sum it up in my words and ask
him, did I get that correct?

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And he said, yes, so we did a kind of
chunks, you know?

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Whether that one and if you are on YouTube,

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that’s the one that really summed it up for
me well.

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And then I’ll wait, I can’t wait to see
yours officially aired by.

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Yes.
Yeah, it aired on Thursday morning.

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And it was, they got callbacks at the radio
station, can I pull that?

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Is that yeah, yeah, it’s on the archive.

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Yeah, just look up WPK in

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archives. Okay, cool.

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And then Google searched that and it should
take you

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to the spot on their website. It’s a little
clunky.

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You know, it’s community radio website,
isn’t it?

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But yeah, if you look at Thursday, the two
30 a.m.

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slot.
So it’s the overnight.

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But two 30 a.m.

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on Thursday, you’ll see radio and invited.

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And it’s a three and a half hour segment,
and if you just scrub forward because you

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can on that archive, scrub forward to an

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hour into the show.
It takes over 30 minutes of.

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The first 30 minutes is a different
interview that bob Johnson did and then at

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the top of the hour it’s Alberto for a full

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hour too.
So we usually do 30 minutes segments.

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So we had so much material with them when
we told bob.

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It’s like, it just has to be an hour.

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Like, really, we could talk to him for
hours.

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So there you go.
Yeah, so it’s good.

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So but I’ll have it up on the podcast to
probably the next couple of days.

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So if you don’t like the archive for
whatever reason, it’ll be on the podcast.

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Cool.
Yeah, I was