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put on your travel shoes for this story

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we’re going south of the border actually

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much more south than you think go on

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past mexico past panama pass the equator

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even keep on going past brazil and there

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you’ll find uruguay it’s a small country

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about the size of the state of missouri

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in february 2017 one of the top medical

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providers in the capital city of

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montevideo got hacked

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this medical provider has a whole

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network clinics and healthcare

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facilities a hacker broke in through the

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provider’s website accessed the database

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and took a ton of patient records a week

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later the hacker sent a ransom email to

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the medical provider showing they had

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confidential data and demanded they pay

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15 bitcoin if they didn’t get the

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bitcoins they said they would publicly

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release the patient details of everyone

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who had hiv and cancer

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the note went on to say the price will

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go up by five bitcoins every day they

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don’t pay

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it’s unclear if the medical provider

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paid the ransom or not in some news

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articles that said they did pay but

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someone close to this case told me the

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email didn’t even have a bitcoin address

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in it either way the patient records

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never actually got leaked

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the medical provider immediately began

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investigating who this hacker was

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they worked with local police to try to

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track down who was behind the extortion

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after seven months they got their break

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they were able to track down the ip

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address of who sent the email to an

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apartment in montevideo the police

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raided the apartment and were totally

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stunned with what they found

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there were tons of electronic devices

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everywhere

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laptops cell phones hard drives crypto

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wallets and thumb drives the police felt

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like they hit the jackpot and thought

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this person probably hacked many other

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places too they arrested alberto hill

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the guy that lived there and the owner

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of this stuff they took him to jail and

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seized loads of equipment from his home

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uruguay police took from alberto’s

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apartment the following items fourteen

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hundred us dollars eight thousand euros

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150 brazilian dollars and three thousand

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uruguayan pesos six laptop computers

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five cell phones a device used to clone

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credit cards and 125 blank credit cards

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and an additional 30 normal credit cards

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13 hard drives a drive duplicator a few

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routers a flashlight a magazine full of

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cds a whole stack of hardware bitcoin

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wallets two fake toy coins that say

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bitcoin on them 16 usb drives two

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printers a guy fox anonymous mask and a

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guillotine and on the laptops they found

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hacking tools and programs and viruses

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uruguay and police presented all this to

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alberto and he made a verbal confession

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saying he did in fact hack into the

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medical provider and he did send the

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extortion email

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alberto went to prison for a long time

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case closed right end of story

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hold on hold on my name is alberto hill

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and i have something to say about this

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alberto says there’s one tiny detail

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that isn’t right about this story i i

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tell you shaq i did not do it i didn’t

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know it and i i am innocent

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side of the internet

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i’m jack reciter

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this is dark net diaries

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alberto hill is a 41 year old uruguayan

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he was arrested and sentenced to prison

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for hacking into a medical facility and

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conducting extortion he’s actually the

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first hacker to ever serve prison time

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in uruguay but he says he didn’t do it

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so why did he get arrested yeah very

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good question alberto has a lot to say

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about this story and i spent a few weeks

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with him exchanging dozens of emails and

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looking at tons of court documentation

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news reports and articles and i even

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hired a translator to decode some of the

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stuff i talked with alberto for hours to

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fully understand his story it all

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started three years ago alberto was

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working for the uruguayan government

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i was

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in charge of security of a company of

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the government here in uruguay he had

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been working for the government for four

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years as a security consultant securing

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systems investigating malware conducting

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security audits before that alberta was

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working with interpol and doing digital

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forensics he has an associate’s degree

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an engineering degree and a master’s

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degree all related to computers he’s

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also very knowledgeable about

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cryptocurrencies and has written papers

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on them even given a few talks i was

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always a conference i was talking about

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security and bitcoins and then

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i was selected to go to sao paulo brazil

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for the ics

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ii

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conference and i was talking about

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bitcoins and security also and he gave a

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few other talks as well mostly talking

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about bitcoins and cryptocurrencies

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alberto has been studying and working in

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related jobs for the last 20 years most

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of that time has been focused on

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security he is a pmp or project

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management professional and this

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certification is not easy to get and

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he’s even a certified ethical hacker

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yeah that’s actually a certification

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which teaches you all the tools that a

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hacker uses to break into places when

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you’re securing companies it’s good to

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know exactly what tools the hackers are

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using to break into things so taking the

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certified ethical hacker exam is common

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in the infosec community i’m actually a

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certified ethical hacker too

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and one of the most valuable assets to

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have if you’re doing security work is to

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be endlessly curious and alberto is

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always wondering how secure the websites

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are that he visits it’s something that

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you just can’t control is stronger than

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you i see a system and i just can help

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start looking at the source code i start

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modifying things uh he’s stronger than

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me i cannot i cannot it’s like a draft i

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think it’s the mind of a hacker that you

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have the curiosity to be successful when

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he visits the website he can’t help

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himself but to poke at it a little he’ll

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check if any strange ports are open or

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glaring security problems alberto has

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found vulnerabilities in sites and

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reported them so they can fix it it’s

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just something he does sometimes

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on saturday morning in 2015 he stumbled

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upon something interesting i was in bed

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with the computer and my girlfriend told

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me that she wanted to access to the

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medical institute

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and she wanted to see something about

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her health records he was helping her

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use this medical provider website to

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check her health information while using

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it he decided to poke at it a little bit

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and check if there were any obvious

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vulnerabilities now to be honest i’ve

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poked at my medical providers website

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before and i’ve found vulnerabilities

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and reported them so this isn’t that

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crazy of an idea but alberto found a

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massive vulnerability with this medical

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provider’s website just for fun he tried

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to log in as the username admin with the

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password admin and it worked

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he was logged in as the administrator to

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the medical facility

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this couldn’t be so easy i mean admin

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admin and i had access to all the system

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that which not not only about medical

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information but it was about all the

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medical medical information the

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uh the finances of the company that that

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was crazy i mean with that minimum you

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could access to all of that you could

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create more users you could see

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the information about every user not

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only the medical information but also

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personal information that was crazy

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alberto couldn’t believe what he was

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seeing

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i looked this up and since 1970 computer

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companies have been using admin admin as

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the default login it’s over 45 years

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that we’ve known not to use this

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username password combo yet it still

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exists on systems today and alberto

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found it on a medical provider system

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in terms of severity of this

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vulnerability for the medical provider

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this is a solid 10 out of 10. critical

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red alert stop everything and fix it

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immediately it’s probably the most

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well-known vulnerability it’s easy to

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execute you can use it to exploit from

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anywhere in the world and has the

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capability to do major damage to the

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company in fact of all vulnerabilities

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this one might be the most severe one in

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alberto knew he had to act quickly and

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do something about this so i immediately

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sent an email to the cert of uruguay

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cert which stands for a computer

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emergency readiness team is a

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government-ran team that helps protect

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the government from cyber attacks but

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not also to the government also to

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critical systems such as the medical

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institutions right the goal of cert is

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not just to protect governments but also

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to protect the nation from cyber

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security threats and there are asserts

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ran by governments all over the world so

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important company the right course of

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action is to report it to the cert who

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can then contact the company and sort it

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out so that’s just what alberto did he

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sent an email to the uruguay insert

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telling them exactly what vulnerability

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he found including his own ip address

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only know which connection was his that

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logged into the system in two hours they

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reply to me and they say okay it is

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confirmed the admin admin problem is

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right there is a big problem there

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alberta felt relieved that the cert was

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now working towards contacting the

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medical provider and resolving the issue

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but he had a hunch the site had many

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more problems i noticed that the system

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was very weak and i was sure that it had

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many other security issues

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i don’t know i i knew that it was easy

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to to have that system but i i didn’t do

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anything else and after that alberto

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forgot about this once he reported it it

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was no longer in his hands and he went

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someone hacked into the same medical

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facility and took the patient records

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was used a hacker sent an email to the

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medical provider demanding 15 bitcoins

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that released the patient data they

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collected the medical facility began an

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investigation i contacted the police who

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called this case operation bitcoins it

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took them seven months in order to do

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something and what they did led them to

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issuing two search warrants to two

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people one was me one was me and my

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house and another was a person i do not

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know the police came to his house

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knocked on his door but he wasn’t home

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so they left a note saying to come to

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the police station so they could talk to

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him and i was wondering why i had no

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idea i went to the police with my

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girlfriend a friend and his girlfriend

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the interpol appeared they told me

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do you know why you’re here and i say no

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roberto’s head was raising with what

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this was all about still he had no idea

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why the police wanted to talk to him he

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was thinking maybe it was because of a

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recent order of some computer parts that

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he got directly from china but then the

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police asked him if he knows about the

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medical provider he reported the issues

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about two years ago and he said oh okay

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and i was i felt such a relief because i

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had nothing to hide about that i was i

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mean okay they are going to ask me

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questions about how i access to that i

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mean i was so relieved when they told me

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was about it alberto told them

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everything about how he was able to use

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admin admin to access the medical

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provider’s website and to see all kinds

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of information that he shouldn’t be

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allowed to see he told them exactly step

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by step how he was able to find the

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vulnerability and got access and at one

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point they

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showed me a

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paper with a the email

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asking for the

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for the extortion email and they they

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asked me okay you send this i said no i

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did not

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[Music]

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well they asked me several times

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until they told me well i have here a

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paper from the

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internet company saying that your id

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your dismay was sent from your ip and i

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said

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it’s impossible i mean

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i didn’t tell him that you’re lying but

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it was not possible

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the police just heard alberto explain

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how years ago he was able to hack into

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the website so this caused a lot of

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suspicion so to be safe the police held

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alberto in jail that night

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his girlfriend came to visit him she

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just

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brought me a food to eat and some

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medication for my asthma

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because i was

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i was frozen

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it was a very bad situation for me but i

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was feeling that it was going to be

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everything clear and

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and

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they they were going to have the

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evidence that i didn’t do anything

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and the morning after that my girlfriend

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took me coffee and something to eat

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and she needed she didn’t know anything

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she didn’t know anything what’s going on

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the police took alberto out of his cell

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but instead of letting him go they put

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him in the back of a police car and took

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him to his own apartment

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the police put on latex gloves and began

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going through his things

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and alberto had a lot of things

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electronics and computers everywhere

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here’s one of the police officers

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explaining what they found in this

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search

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and we started to search in his

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laboratory we found stickers keychains

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and books about bitcoin he told us that

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he was in argentina on the 7th of august

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buying and selling bitcoin therefore we

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were not wrong in what we were doing

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there was also a lot of information

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about credit cards and machines that

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could clone chips and cards we found

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several electronic cards and ship

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cloners which he bought directly from

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china then he had a lot of hard drives

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computers four or five monitors and

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surveillance cameras with remote access

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this does seem like a lot of equipment

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for one guy to have in his apartment and

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the police kept finding what looked like

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hacker paraphernalia and asked alberto

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why he had it first they asked why he

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had so many hard drives and he said he

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had about 50 of them and he was buying

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them broken dirt cheap from ebay he was

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doing research to try to see what kind

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of data he could scrape off of a broken

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hard drive alberta was writing a

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research paper about what data is left

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on hard drives when you sell them on

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ebay then there were seven laptops

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alberto’s not a guy who throws out old

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computers that are no good instead he

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keeps them around in case he needs them

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he likes to experiment with different

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operating systems and applications and

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having multiple computers to do this is

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handy then he had about 10 cell phones

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but he simply goes on to say these are

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all phones that he’s used over the years

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and he just didn’t throw any of them out

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they just piled up in drawers over time

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you know what now that i think about it

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in my drawer here i’ve got three four

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five six cell phones myself that’s just

399
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kind of piled up over the years so i

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guess i do the same thing too you also

401
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had a bunch of thumb drives some of

402
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these were storage devices but many were

403
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hacking devices rubber duckies bash

404
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bunnies to name a few

405
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while alberto says yes these are tools a

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hacker would use you have to know what

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tools the hackers use in order to

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protect yourself so he just had them

409
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around for learning purposes

410
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and he had a bunch of ledger wallets

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these look like usb sticks but they’re

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actually hardware bitcoin wallets

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these are really handy if you want to

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store your bitcoins offline like for

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instance in a safe but it is kind of

416
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strange to have a whole stack of them

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though talked to the company in france

418
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and i was the person that was the

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reseller of them here in this part of

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the world so i got a box full of leisure

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wallets you know i have one of these

422
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ledger wallets myself and in fact up

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until this point all the stuff he has i

424
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have about the same stuff in my lab it’s

425
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not uncommon to see a security engineer

426
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with a lab full of equipment but alberto

427
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had some stranger stuff that the police

428
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kept asking him about for instance he

429
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had a credit card cloner and a bunch of

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blank credit cards

431
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now the first thing the police thought

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was that he was buying stolen credit

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card numbers online and then printing

434
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his own credit cards but when the police

435
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asked him why he had this he told them i

436
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was making a

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test of

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security with the credit card especially

439
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with the chips he goes on to explain

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that he’s using the machine to conduct

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research on the chip and pin features of

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the cards he explains that that card

443
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rider was never used and every one of

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the cards were blank he says the cloner

445
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itself is easy to get and legal but it’s

446
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the software on the cloner that’s the

447
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hard part to obtain even hotels have

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cloners to make room keys with but then

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there are 30 actual credit cards with

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his name on them actually many of them

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are expired and i have had them since

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1995

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so i was i never i never got rid of

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credit cards i was always storing them

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after they expired so i was collecting

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them besides credit cards there was a

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lot of cash found in his apartment

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specifically the police found 1400 us

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dollars 8 000 euros 150 brazilian

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dollars and 3 000 uruguayan pesos now

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think about how much cash you have

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stashed away at home and compared to the

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roughly 13 thousand dollars the police

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found at alberto’s would you say this is

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a suspiciously large amount of money to

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keep at home well the police did the

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uruguayan money makes sense because

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that’s where he lives and even the

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brazilian money makes sense because it’s

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the neighboring country and he was just

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there to give a talk

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but the police wanted to know why he had

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so many us dollars and euros uh why did

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i have that because of transaction with

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vehicles i mean all the euros were

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because of a transaction that i made

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selling a couple of people to a

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tourist a

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here in uruguay uh

480
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the bitcoin was at i don’t know for

481
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probably 4 000

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euros each so

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it was a couple of beacons so i got 8

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000

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euros from that and the us dollars i

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think they say

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less than 2 000

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that was also from from the operations

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with vehicles and according to the

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police report they said they found a

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guillotine

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oh that’s very funny jack i mean my

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mother really laughed a lot when you

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send me an

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email asking me

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that question because

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i i don’t have a device to cut heads in

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my house i have many things but not that

499
00:17:47,440 –> 00:17:51,679
a guillotine is a device to to cut a

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paper in

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in a perfect way i mean in a flawless

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way just to cut paper and in fact the

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maker of the paper cutting device

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00:17:57,360 –> 00:18:01,440
actually does call it guillotine to you

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and lastly he also had an anonymous mask

506
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hanging on the wall oh yeah well the

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mask

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why did i buy that mask well i just

509
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wanted to buy it because i like to

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collect all those kind of things related

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to hacking i have many t-shirts also

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related to security and to hacking to

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anonymous and i had it

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in

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my house and of course when i saw that

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it was the the final evidence that i was

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a super criminal of course alberto tried

518
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desperately to explain the reason why he

519
00:18:30,320 –> 00:18:33,840
had all these things to the police but

520
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the evidence was just too much the

521
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police were blown away by the amount of

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hacker paraphernalia found they thought

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if he talked like a duck and looked like

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a duck then he probably is a duck they

525
00:18:41,520 –> 00:18:45,039
had certainly thought they captured a

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00:18:42,960 –> 00:18:47,200
cyber terrorist who else would have all

527
00:18:45,039 –> 00:18:48,960
these computer parts the police seized

528
00:18:47,200 –> 00:18:50,480
all his stuff including the guillotine

529
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and mask

530
00:18:50,480 –> 00:18:54,000
no matter how much alberto explained the

531
00:18:52,240 –> 00:18:55,679
police simply didn’t listen and grew

532
00:18:54,000 –> 00:18:56,480
more excited with each new device they

533
00:18:55,679 –> 00:18:58,240
found

534
00:18:56,480 –> 00:18:59,840
the police were making a big mess in his

535
00:18:58,240 –> 00:19:01,760
apartment taking things apart and

536
00:18:59,840 –> 00:19:03,280
leaving stuff all over the floor alberto

537
00:19:01,760 –> 00:19:04,799
grew more desperate trying to explain

538
00:19:03,280 –> 00:19:06,720
the reasons why he owned each and

539
00:19:04,799 –> 00:19:11,280
everything in his apartment this

540
00:19:06,720 –> 00:19:13,520
continued all morning long for hours

541
00:19:11,280 –> 00:19:15,120
then around 1pm and a new police officer

542
00:19:13,520 –> 00:19:16,720
showed up he had a quick chat with the

543
00:19:15,120 –> 00:19:18,799
police in his apartment and then pulled

544
00:19:16,720 –> 00:19:20,720
alberto aside for a talk

545
00:19:18,799 –> 00:19:22,160
alberto could tell he had more authority

546
00:19:20,720 –> 00:19:23,360
and was more serious than the other

547
00:19:22,160 –> 00:19:27,039
policemen

548
00:19:23,360 –> 00:19:30,320
and he started to tell me that

549
00:19:27,039 –> 00:19:32,160
okay i had to confess about the mail

550
00:19:30,320 –> 00:19:34,799
otherwise they would

551
00:19:32,160 –> 00:19:36,400
go and do the same they were doing in my

552
00:19:34,799 –> 00:19:38,799
house with my girlfriend and with my

553
00:19:36,400 –> 00:19:41,919
mother

554
00:19:38,799 –> 00:19:44,000
he kept on insisting on on that and i

555
00:19:41,919 –> 00:19:47,440
was thinking to myself okay

556
00:19:44,000 –> 00:19:50,559
if i admit that i am i know i have i am

557
00:19:47,440 –> 00:19:53,360
certain that they do not have any

558
00:19:50,559 –> 00:19:56,559
evidence or ip that links me to that

559
00:19:53,360 –> 00:19:59,280
email i mean that of that i’m sure so if

560
00:19:56,559 –> 00:20:01,520
i say okay i send the email later i

561
00:19:59,280 –> 00:20:03,600
thought that i would be able to

562
00:20:01,520 –> 00:20:06,240
prove that no

563
00:20:03,600 –> 00:20:09,760
there is no no link between that male

564
00:20:06,240 –> 00:20:11,679
and me as and i will avoid all the

565
00:20:09,760 –> 00:20:14,320
pressure on the psychological pressure

566
00:20:11,679 –> 00:20:16,400
that will put it on me

567
00:20:14,320 –> 00:20:19,020
so

568
00:20:16,400 –> 00:20:22,109
i decided to say okay

569
00:20:19,020 –> 00:20:22,109
[Music]

570
00:20:22,799 –> 00:20:26,159
when the police threatened to raid his

571
00:20:24,240 –> 00:20:28,320
mother’s house he confessed to writing

572
00:20:26,159 –> 00:20:30,240
the ransom email because he knew he

573
00:20:28,320 –> 00:20:31,679
could prove he was innocent in court and

574
00:20:30,240 –> 00:20:33,440
he wanted to save the grief of his

575
00:20:31,679 –> 00:20:36,480
mother and girlfriend being questioned

576
00:20:33,440 –> 00:20:38,720
and searched and a few minutes after i

577
00:20:36,480 –> 00:20:40,080
admit that i was surprised that my

578
00:20:38,720 –> 00:20:42,880
girlfriend appeared

579
00:20:40,080 –> 00:20:44,640
they they had taken her to my house she

580
00:20:42,880 –> 00:20:46,159
was surprised to see alberto handcuffed

581
00:20:44,640 –> 00:20:48,240
and being treated poorly it was

582
00:20:46,159 –> 00:20:50,799
embarrassing to alberto and at that

583
00:20:48,240 –> 00:20:52,240
point she was arrested

584
00:20:50,799 –> 00:20:54,480
the police took alberto and his

585
00:20:52,240 –> 00:20:56,720
girlfriend to jail as well as many boxes

586
00:20:54,480 –> 00:20:58,960
of electronics alberta was able to go

587
00:20:56,720 –> 00:21:01,600
directly to court that day it was a

588
00:20:58,960 –> 00:21:03,440
frustrating long period of time where

589
00:21:01,600 –> 00:21:05,600
they were asking me questions that were

590
00:21:03,440 –> 00:21:07,600
irrelevant because of the lack of

591
00:21:05,600 –> 00:21:09,919
knowledge in

592
00:21:07,600 –> 00:21:09,919
about

593
00:21:10,000 –> 00:21:14,480
computers that the church and the

594
00:21:12,320 –> 00:21:16,640
prosecutor have so they were asking me

595
00:21:14,480 –> 00:21:18,720
irrelevant questions

596
00:21:16,640 –> 00:21:20,880
they didn’t know what to ask me well it

597
00:21:18,720 –> 00:21:23,039
was very frustrating for me because i

598
00:21:20,880 –> 00:21:25,280
wanted to tell the truth but i wasn’t

599
00:21:23,039 –> 00:21:27,039
able to explain myself in order for them

600
00:21:25,280 –> 00:21:29,280
to understand because they didn’t have

601
00:21:27,039 –> 00:21:30,480
the knowledge to understand

602
00:21:29,280 –> 00:21:32,640
the situation

603
00:21:30,480 –> 00:21:34,080
that they hardly know what an ip address

604
00:21:32,640 –> 00:21:35,600
was so

605
00:21:34,080 –> 00:21:37,360
that’s for you to have an idea of how

606
00:21:35,600 –> 00:21:40,000
frustrating it was the

607
00:21:37,360 –> 00:21:41,760
whole situation

608
00:21:40,000 –> 00:21:43,600
that court day was over alberta was

609
00:21:41,760 –> 00:21:45,600
taken back to his jail cell while

610
00:21:43,600 –> 00:21:47,360
walking there he saw the boxes of stuff

611
00:21:45,600 –> 00:21:49,520
they took from his apartment and noticed

612
00:21:47,360 –> 00:21:51,679
something one of the items he had in his

613
00:21:49,520 –> 00:21:53,760
apartment was a thing called a usb

614
00:21:51,679 –> 00:21:56,159
killer this is a device that looks like

615
00:21:53,760 –> 00:21:58,559
a regular usb drive but it’s got a very

616
00:21:56,159 –> 00:22:01,039
dangerous side to it when you plug it in

617
00:21:58,559 –> 00:22:03,120
it charges a large capacitor up and then

618
00:22:01,039 –> 00:22:05,200
discharges it quickly zapping the port

619
00:22:03,120 –> 00:22:07,280
with a huge power surge

620
00:22:05,200 –> 00:22:09,200
this causes a massive electronic shock

621
00:22:07,280 –> 00:22:11,360
and usually kills whatever you plug into

622
00:22:09,200 –> 00:22:13,840
it such as a laptop it’s designed to

623
00:22:11,360 –> 00:22:15,600
test the surge capabilities of usb ports

624
00:22:13,840 –> 00:22:16,880
but usually it just destroys whatever

625
00:22:15,600 –> 00:22:18,960
you plug it into

626
00:22:16,880 –> 00:22:21,120
alberto saw they had taken this and was

627
00:22:18,960 –> 00:22:24,000
trying to tell them not to plug it in i

628
00:22:21,120 –> 00:22:26,559
told him please to be careful with that

629
00:22:24,000 –> 00:22:31,679
because it could destroy any device that

630
00:22:26,559 –> 00:22:33,360
has a usb port and he said okay okay

631
00:22:31,679 –> 00:22:35,679
so they took him back to his cell for

632
00:22:33,360 –> 00:22:38,080
the night and my girlfriend also was

633
00:22:35,679 –> 00:22:39,600
arrested and she spent the night there

634
00:22:38,080 –> 00:22:41,679
in the interpol

635
00:22:39,600 –> 00:22:43,760
building

636
00:22:41,679 –> 00:22:46,159
the interrogation for her was was not

637
00:22:43,760 –> 00:22:49,280
nice i mean they told him for example

638
00:22:46,159 –> 00:22:51,679
that i had admitted everything and i and

639
00:22:49,280 –> 00:22:52,799
i told that she was

640
00:22:51,679 –> 00:22:55,120
she was

641
00:22:52,799 –> 00:22:57,679
the mind behind everything i mean

642
00:22:55,120 –> 00:23:00,400
things like that they told her they were

643
00:22:57,679 –> 00:23:03,120
playing with her mind it was stupid

644
00:23:00,400 –> 00:23:05,280
and she she knew nothing

645
00:23:03,120 –> 00:23:07,280
this took a major psychological toll on

646
00:23:05,280 –> 00:23:09,440
his girlfriend her whole life was now

647
00:23:07,280 –> 00:23:11,039
flipped upside down she couldn’t imagine

648
00:23:09,440 –> 00:23:12,720
how this could have happened to her she

649
00:23:11,039 –> 00:23:14,640
was really taking this terribly and

650
00:23:12,720 –> 00:23:16,960
couldn’t sleep at all while in jail

651
00:23:14,640 –> 00:23:19,360
worrying that she might not ever get out

652
00:23:16,960 –> 00:23:20,960
alberta was very worried also realizing

653
00:23:19,360 –> 00:23:22,799
that all this looks very bad to the

654
00:23:20,960 –> 00:23:24,799
courts and admitting to the email made

655
00:23:22,799 –> 00:23:26,480
everything worse his anxiety was

656
00:23:24,799 –> 00:23:28,240
becoming very high and he was worried

657
00:23:26,480 –> 00:23:31,120
about what happened to his girlfriend

658
00:23:28,240 –> 00:23:34,159
and well at that point you are in a cell

659
00:23:31,120 –> 00:23:35,600
that is very small you all you can do is

660
00:23:34,159 –> 00:23:37,110
think and

661
00:23:35,600 –> 00:23:43,830
that’s what i did i thought

662
00:23:37,110 –> 00:23:43,830
[Music]

663
00:23:46,240 –> 00:23:50,320
alberto spent the night in the freezing

664
00:23:47,919 –> 00:23:52,000
jail with very little sleep when he woke

665
00:23:50,320 –> 00:23:53,520
up he was taken back into the courtroom

666
00:23:52,000 –> 00:23:55,679
to testify

667
00:23:53,520 –> 00:23:58,320
and at that point my mother was aware of

668
00:23:55,679 –> 00:24:00,559
everything and she got me a lawyer

669
00:23:58,320 –> 00:24:01,760
during the generation the prosecutor

670
00:24:00,559 –> 00:24:04,799
asked me

671
00:24:01,760 –> 00:24:06,799
in this pendrive you have 12 beeruses

672
00:24:04,799 –> 00:24:10,159
how do you explain that and it was like

673
00:24:06,799 –> 00:24:11,840
oh my god why no i don’t want to do that

674
00:24:10,159 –> 00:24:13,520
i don’t want to explain that waste my

675
00:24:11,840 –> 00:24:15,039
time it’s common for information

676
00:24:13,520 –> 00:24:17,039
security professionals to play around

677
00:24:15,039 –> 00:24:18,799
with viruses they’ll load them up on a

678
00:24:17,039 –> 00:24:21,120
thumb drive and see if they can infect a

679
00:24:18,799 –> 00:24:22,640
lab device but the prosecutor had such

680
00:24:21,120 –> 00:24:24,640
little knowledge of computers that

681
00:24:22,640 –> 00:24:27,840
alberto didn’t think he would understand

682
00:24:24,640 –> 00:24:29,360
i just said okay i’m sorry i yeah i had

683
00:24:27,840 –> 00:24:31,679
viruses

684
00:24:29,360 –> 00:24:33,919
well i don’t know

685
00:24:31,679 –> 00:24:36,559
and the prosecutor got the file and said

686
00:24:33,919 –> 00:24:39,360
and you have a usb kill what what’s a

687
00:24:36,559 –> 00:24:41,520
device that that has a name of kill

688
00:24:39,360 –> 00:24:43,919
and i thought to myself why the hell did

689
00:24:41,520 –> 00:24:45,360
i tell about the usb kill devices oh my

690
00:24:43,919 –> 00:24:47,360
god

691
00:24:45,360 –> 00:24:49,919
things did not go well for alberto

692
00:24:47,360 –> 00:24:52,080
during court piles of evidence showed he

693
00:24:49,919 –> 00:24:54,240
was a very capable hacker and knew a

694
00:24:52,080 –> 00:24:56,400
great deal about bitcoin and admitted to

695
00:24:54,240 –> 00:24:58,240
hacking into the medical provider and

696
00:24:56,400 –> 00:24:59,840
admitted to sending the email

697
00:24:58,240 –> 00:25:01,200
he only admitted to the email because he

698
00:24:59,840 –> 00:25:02,960
wanted to save the grief of his

699
00:25:01,200 –> 00:25:05,360
girlfriend and mother getting harassed

700
00:25:02,960 –> 00:25:07,919
by the police

701
00:25:05,360 –> 00:25:11,919
at the end of the day

702
00:25:07,919 –> 00:25:16,240
well my lawyer called me and he said

703
00:25:11,919 –> 00:25:19,120
i am so sorry but you are going to

704
00:25:16,240 –> 00:25:21,520
do suspicion

705
00:25:19,120 –> 00:25:23,919
i was charged with two things one was

706
00:25:21,520 –> 00:25:26,799
extortion and another thing was

707
00:25:23,919 –> 00:25:29,520
fraudulent access to

708
00:25:26,799 –> 00:25:31,279
secret information

709
00:25:29,520 –> 00:25:32,960
alberta was found guilty and he was

710
00:25:31,279 –> 00:25:35,520
being sent to a long-term prison where

711
00:25:32,960 –> 00:25:37,520
he would have to stay for years that day

712
00:25:35,520 –> 00:25:40,320
i really thought it was the end of the

713
00:25:37,520 –> 00:25:41,440
world for me i was really

714
00:25:40,320 –> 00:25:44,159
really

715
00:25:41,440 –> 00:25:45,679
i don’t know my mind was like blocked i

716
00:25:44,159 –> 00:25:46,799
never thought something like that would

717
00:25:45,679 –> 00:25:48,720
happen to me

718
00:25:46,799 –> 00:25:51,360
a few days after court he was put on a

719
00:25:48,720 –> 00:25:53,120
bus and sent to a prison very far away

720
00:25:51,360 –> 00:25:54,960
he knew his life had changed forever and

721
00:25:53,120 –> 00:25:56,640
still couldn’t believe it

722
00:25:54,960 –> 00:25:59,120
after the court ruling the news of this

723
00:25:56,640 –> 00:26:00,559
hit major news outlets the police lined

724
00:25:59,120 –> 00:26:02,080
up all the electronics they took from

725
00:26:00,559 –> 00:26:04,159
his house and put them on display for

726
00:26:02,080 –> 00:26:06,400
the media the equipment filled up a very

727
00:26:04,159 –> 00:26:08,960
large conference table on the table you

728
00:26:06,400 –> 00:26:11,200
see cell phones laptops usb drives blank

729
00:26:08,960 –> 00:26:13,360
credit cards credit card cloner routers

730
00:26:11,200 –> 00:26:15,120
and the iconic anonymous mask and so

731
00:26:13,360 –> 00:26:16,960
much more this was the first time the

732
00:26:15,120 –> 00:26:18,960
hacker had gone to prison in uruguay so

733
00:26:16,960 –> 00:26:20,640
it was a big deal the police may have

734
00:26:18,960 –> 00:26:21,919
hyped up the story too thinking it was a

735
00:26:20,640 –> 00:26:24,000
great achievement for them to have

736
00:26:21,919 –> 00:26:25,919
captured a dangerous hacker and the

737
00:26:24,000 –> 00:26:28,000
media really wasn’t kind either because

738
00:26:25,919 –> 00:26:30,799
what kind of jerk steals patient records

739
00:26:28,000 –> 00:26:32,320
and tries to use them for extortion

740
00:26:30,799 –> 00:26:34,720
by the time alberto arrived to the

741
00:26:32,320 –> 00:26:37,360
prison he was already very popular the

742
00:26:34,720 –> 00:26:40,000
first day that i arrived

743
00:26:37,360 –> 00:26:41,279
they asked the the people that were in

744
00:26:40,000 –> 00:26:42,880
in my cell

745
00:26:41,279 –> 00:26:45,520
asked me why

746
00:26:42,880 –> 00:26:48,159
what crime did i commit and i said no i

747
00:26:45,520 –> 00:26:50,159
commit a computer crime and

748
00:26:48,159 –> 00:26:52,960
well i have a system

749
00:26:50,159 –> 00:26:55,440
oh you’re the hacker oh my god

750
00:26:52,960 –> 00:26:57,600
you’re my hero i want to be like you

751
00:26:55,440 –> 00:26:59,360
can you hack the the facebook of my

752
00:26:57,600 –> 00:27:01,520
girlfriend

753
00:26:59,360 –> 00:27:04,159
and i was thinking oh my god i cannot

754
00:27:01,520 –> 00:27:07,919
believe it and this prayer that other

755
00:27:04,159 –> 00:27:10,640
people that arrived after me in shell

756
00:27:07,919 –> 00:27:14,240
told me that oh you’re the hacker oh my

757
00:27:10,640 –> 00:27:14,240
god i want to be like you

758
00:27:14,960 –> 00:27:20,880
i was realizing the magnitude that this

759
00:27:18,159 –> 00:27:23,520
case has in the press i mean it was in

760
00:27:20,880 –> 00:27:26,000
every newspaper in uruguay it was in

761
00:27:23,520 –> 00:27:28,960
every tv news

762
00:27:26,000 –> 00:27:30,559
in uruguay in every radio program i mean

763
00:27:28,960 –> 00:27:34,240
it was everywhere

764
00:27:30,559 –> 00:27:37,679
everybody knew about this case

765
00:27:34,240 –> 00:27:39,840
prison is a world i have never thought i

766
00:27:37,679 –> 00:27:44,159
could be in where you’re surrounded by

767
00:27:39,840 –> 00:27:46,320
people that lived in a world of crime

768
00:27:44,159 –> 00:27:49,840
none of them were hackers they were

769
00:27:46,320 –> 00:27:52,240
sexual offenders killers drug dealers

770
00:27:49,840 –> 00:27:54,960
people that commit very violent crimes

771
00:27:52,240 –> 00:27:56,960
that i mean their their profile was

772
00:27:54,960 –> 00:27:58,320
completely different than mine i have

773
00:27:56,960 –> 00:28:00,480
never

774
00:27:58,320 –> 00:28:02,799
imagined i could

775
00:28:00,480 –> 00:28:04,240
be with people like that

776
00:28:02,799 –> 00:28:05,919
prison warden made a strict rule

777
00:28:04,240 –> 00:28:07,840
announcing that because alberta was a

778
00:28:05,919 –> 00:28:10,399
convicted hacker that he was not allowed

779
00:28:07,840 –> 00:28:12,399
to touch any computers or electronics

780
00:28:10,399 –> 00:28:14,640
but alberto was a nice guy followed all

781
00:28:12,399 –> 00:28:16,880
the rules and people started to like him

782
00:28:14,640 –> 00:28:19,679
and three months after that i was here

783
00:28:16,880 –> 00:28:22,399
teaching the inmates the basic of world

784
00:28:19,679 –> 00:28:24,240
in a in a room with

785
00:28:22,399 –> 00:28:25,440
seven computers connected to the

786
00:28:24,240 –> 00:28:27,039
internet

787
00:28:25,440 –> 00:28:28,640
he had earned the trust of the prison

788
00:28:27,039 –> 00:28:30,399
guards and had good behavior while in

789
00:28:28,640 –> 00:28:32,240
prison and this prison was actually not

790
00:28:30,399 –> 00:28:34,159
that bad it had a little more freedom

791
00:28:32,240 –> 00:28:35,840
than most prisons for instance if you

792
00:28:34,159 –> 00:28:37,919
had good behavior there was an option to

793
00:28:35,840 –> 00:28:39,520
get out one or two days a week this

794
00:28:37,919 –> 00:28:41,360
might sound weird to americans but think

795
00:28:39,520 –> 00:28:43,200
of it like a combination of probation

796
00:28:41,360 –> 00:28:44,880
and prison at the same time when you

797
00:28:43,200 –> 00:28:46,399
have probation you are very restricted

798
00:28:44,880 –> 00:28:47,840
on what you can do you may not be able

799
00:28:46,399 –> 00:28:49,200
to go out at night or with certain

800
00:28:47,840 –> 00:28:51,679
people and you may have to get a

801
00:28:49,200 –> 00:28:53,200
specific job so in a way probation is

802
00:28:51,679 –> 00:28:55,600
kind of like prison but you get to go

803
00:28:53,200 –> 00:28:58,000
home and this prison alberta was in let

804
00:28:55,600 –> 00:28:59,679
some inmates go free one day a week and

805
00:28:58,000 –> 00:29:01,279
the guard started telling alberto that

806
00:28:59,679 –> 00:29:03,120
well because of his good behavior in a

807
00:29:01,279 –> 00:29:03,919
month he may let him go home one day a

808
00:29:03,120 –> 00:29:06,799
week

809
00:29:03,919 –> 00:29:08,960
but then something strange happened

810
00:29:06,799 –> 00:29:10,880
at the end of february somebody went to

811
00:29:08,960 –> 00:29:12,799
visit me to the sale

812
00:29:10,880 –> 00:29:14,320
and they called my name and i wasn’t

813
00:29:12,799 –> 00:29:17,600
expecting anyone

814
00:29:14,320 –> 00:29:20,080
and i went outside and i met a person

815
00:29:17,600 –> 00:29:21,600
who i didn’t know and we started talking

816
00:29:20,080 –> 00:29:24,399
and he was a

817
00:29:21,600 –> 00:29:26,720
person who had many companies and he

818
00:29:24,399 –> 00:29:29,360
wanted to know about my case because he

819
00:29:26,720 –> 00:29:31,600
he was surprised about this and he said

820
00:29:29,360 –> 00:29:34,159
man government should hire people like

821
00:29:31,600 –> 00:29:37,279
you not sent to share

822
00:29:34,159 –> 00:29:39,440
a few days after that i was granted i

823
00:29:37,279 –> 00:29:42,399
could go outside the chair for 72 hours

824
00:29:39,440 –> 00:29:43,679
a week this is strange at this prison

825
00:29:42,399 –> 00:29:45,360
usually when you get a free day it

826
00:29:43,679 –> 00:29:47,279
starts out with one and then you work

827
00:29:45,360 –> 00:29:48,720
your way up to two and you might get

828
00:29:47,279 –> 00:29:50,960
three days a week to be able to leave

829
00:29:48,720 –> 00:29:52,799
the prison also he was expecting it to

830
00:29:50,960 –> 00:29:54,799
take another month before his first free

831
00:29:52,799 –> 00:29:56,720
day but only a few days after the

832
00:29:54,799 –> 00:29:59,679
strange visitor appeared he was given

833
00:29:56,720 –> 00:30:01,600
the maximum free time off alberto didn’t

834
00:29:59,679 –> 00:30:03,600
know what to think of this and was very

835
00:30:01,600 –> 00:30:05,520
surprised but he was happy to be getting

836
00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:07,120
out half the week now so he found a

837
00:30:05,520 –> 00:30:10,320
place to stay near the prison on his

838
00:30:07,120 –> 00:30:12,880
free days the first time i went outside

839
00:30:10,320 –> 00:30:15,520
this person who i met in prison came to

840
00:30:12,880 –> 00:30:17,679
my house and he he

841
00:30:15,520 –> 00:30:20,000
started talking to me and at one point

842
00:30:17,679 –> 00:30:22,960
he told me directly i want you to have

843
00:30:20,000 –> 00:30:25,200
this bank and steal money

844
00:30:22,960 –> 00:30:27,360
the stranger had an elaborate plan all

845
00:30:25,200 –> 00:30:29,679
sorted out he knew exactly which bank to

846
00:30:27,360 –> 00:30:31,760
hack into and which accounts to target

847
00:30:29,679 –> 00:30:34,159
and how much money to steal he explained

848
00:30:31,760 –> 00:30:36,080
the plan thoroughly to alberto this was

849
00:30:34,159 –> 00:30:37,919
becoming even stranger for alberto

850
00:30:36,080 –> 00:30:40,159
normally someone asking him to hack into

851
00:30:37,919 –> 00:30:42,559
something is a simple no but this one

852
00:30:40,159 –> 00:30:45,440
seemed more serious roberto said no to

853
00:30:42,559 –> 00:30:47,919
the man many times and he finally left

854
00:30:45,440 –> 00:30:51,919
this stressed alberto out imagine if

855
00:30:47,919 –> 00:30:53,039
that bank got hacked by another person

856
00:30:51,919 –> 00:30:54,559
after

857
00:30:53,039 –> 00:30:56,880
this situation

858
00:30:54,559 –> 00:30:58,159
they they would point to me i mean i

859
00:30:56,880 –> 00:31:00,880
would be

860
00:30:58,159 –> 00:31:03,440
the person of interest i mean if

861
00:31:00,880 –> 00:31:06,480
somebody was hiring me to hack a bank

862
00:31:03,440 –> 00:31:08,640
and i did it no no way so and the funny

863
00:31:06,480 –> 00:31:10,559
thing is that this bank had several

864
00:31:08,640 –> 00:31:13,360
security issues so i thought to myself

865
00:31:10,559 –> 00:31:15,440
oh no oh no oh my god this was really

866
00:31:13,360 –> 00:31:17,200
troubling alberto so he reported it to

867
00:31:15,440 –> 00:31:19,760
the prison guards he was able to get

868
00:31:17,200 –> 00:31:21,519
some xanax to deal with his anxiety but

869
00:31:19,760 –> 00:31:24,000
each week alberto had three days out of

870
00:31:21,519 –> 00:31:26,720
prison he would see this stranger this

871
00:31:24,000 –> 00:31:29,279
guy was stalking him following him home

872
00:31:26,720 –> 00:31:30,880
and around town each time asking alberto

873
00:31:29,279 –> 00:31:33,200
if he was ready to help him hack into

874
00:31:30,880 –> 00:31:35,440
the bank alberto started getting really

875
00:31:33,200 –> 00:31:37,120
distraught over this and his anxiety was

876
00:31:35,440 –> 00:31:39,360
growing more and more

877
00:31:37,120 –> 00:31:41,679
he had to take more xenx to calm himself

878
00:31:39,360 –> 00:31:43,760
but his mind was racing what if that

879
00:31:41,679 –> 00:31:45,600
bank gets robbed and they blame me what

880
00:31:43,760 –> 00:31:48,000
if i know too much and this guy wants to

881
00:31:45,600 –> 00:31:50,320
kill me what if he threatens me

882
00:31:48,000 –> 00:31:52,799
alberto became more agitated the pills

883
00:31:50,320 –> 00:31:54,720
weren’t working he took more he didn’t

884
00:31:52,799 –> 00:31:57,120
know what to do and he was scared and he

885
00:31:54,720 –> 00:31:59,360
took more pills finally this started to

886
00:31:57,120 –> 00:32:01,760
calm him down he started walking back to

887
00:31:59,360 –> 00:32:03,760
the prison where he knew he’d be safer

888
00:32:01,760 –> 00:32:04,640
but he was starting to get drowsy along

889
00:32:03,760 –> 00:32:06,320
the way

890
00:32:04,640 –> 00:32:09,360
and at one point

891
00:32:06,320 –> 00:32:09,360
i closed my eyes

892
00:32:10,480 –> 00:32:16,320
and the next thing was a bit bit deep

893
00:32:14,240 –> 00:32:17,679
now i opened my eyes and i was seeing a

894
00:32:16,320 –> 00:32:21,519
light

895
00:32:17,679 –> 00:32:23,519
they cut all my clothes i was i had all

896
00:32:21,519 –> 00:32:25,360
kinds of devices

897
00:32:23,519 –> 00:32:27,919
in my in my body

898
00:32:25,360 –> 00:32:30,000
and they told me you you spent you

899
00:32:27,919 –> 00:32:31,290
worked two hours in coma you were there

900
00:32:30,000 –> 00:32:32,880
for two hours

901
00:32:31,290 –> 00:32:34,960
[Music]

902
00:32:32,880 –> 00:32:36,880
the intense anxiety caused alberto to

903
00:32:34,960 –> 00:32:38,320
over medicate on xanax which made him

904
00:32:36,880 –> 00:32:40,080
overdose

905
00:32:38,320 –> 00:32:41,840
he was found and rushed to the hospital

906
00:32:40,080 –> 00:32:43,919
where they were able to revive him in

907
00:32:41,840 –> 00:32:45,919
time to save his life he had to spend

908
00:32:43,919 –> 00:32:48,399
some time to calm down and take it easy

909
00:32:45,919 –> 00:32:48,399
after that

910
00:32:49,679 –> 00:32:53,440
meanwhile alberto’s lawyer was endlessly

911
00:32:51,840 –> 00:32:55,120
trying to get him out of prison he

912
00:32:53,440 –> 00:32:57,760
appealed the case but it was not

913
00:32:55,120 –> 00:32:59,760
accepted so he appealed again and again

914
00:32:57,760 –> 00:33:01,519
it wasn’t accepted and finally on the

915
00:32:59,760 –> 00:33:05,279
third appeal the lawyer had some good

916
00:33:01,519 –> 00:33:07,440
news he phoned me and he told me alberto

917
00:33:05,279 –> 00:33:10,480
they failed your favor but there was

918
00:33:07,440 –> 00:33:12,240
only one thing they asked they asked for

919
00:33:10,480 –> 00:33:15,200
ten thousand dollars paid in order to

920
00:33:12,240 –> 00:33:17,679
release you and say okay no problem

921
00:33:15,200 –> 00:33:19,679
start calling some people call my mother

922
00:33:17,679 –> 00:33:22,000
and the next day

923
00:33:19,679 –> 00:33:24,159
she put that money in a bank account she

924
00:33:22,000 –> 00:33:27,120
had to make a lot of feel a lot of

925
00:33:24,159 –> 00:33:29,200
documents and she gave the paper saying

926
00:33:27,120 –> 00:33:31,840
that the money was deposited and they

927
00:33:29,200 –> 00:33:32,760
sent a fax to the shell saying that i

928
00:33:31,840 –> 00:33:35,279
had to be released

929
00:33:32,760 –> 00:33:37,039
[Music]

930
00:33:35,279 –> 00:33:39,200
after spending nine months in prison

931
00:33:37,039 –> 00:33:41,120
alberta was set free was able to return

932
00:33:39,200 –> 00:33:44,240
home for the first time to his apartment

933
00:33:41,120 –> 00:33:44,880
in montevideo i arrived to my house and

934
00:33:44,240 –> 00:33:46,640
i

935
00:33:44,880 –> 00:33:48,799
i couldn’t believe it when i opened the

936
00:33:46,640 –> 00:33:50,960
door and i went to my office and i

937
00:33:48,799 –> 00:33:53,679
started seeing hardy strides and i said

938
00:33:50,960 –> 00:33:54,960
what’s this oh my god the heart is right

939
00:33:53,679 –> 00:33:57,120
i couldn’t believe that there was so

940
00:33:54,960 –> 00:33:58,480
much stuff left behind by the police it

941
00:33:57,120 –> 00:34:00,720
was totally shocked that they didn’t

942
00:33:58,480 –> 00:34:01,840
take every last device and examine it

943
00:34:00,720 –> 00:34:03,279
for evidence

944
00:34:01,840 –> 00:34:05,679
in his mind he was wondering if the

945
00:34:03,279 –> 00:34:08,639
investigators did anything right and i

946
00:34:05,679 –> 00:34:11,359
found 29 hard disks they also left three

947
00:34:08,639 –> 00:34:14,000
laptops three cellular phones i also

948
00:34:11,359 –> 00:34:15,839
found money money from uruguay from

949
00:34:14,000 –> 00:34:21,079
paraguay and argentina

950
00:34:15,839 –> 00:34:21,079
and i also found blank credit cards

951
00:34:21,119 –> 00:34:27,040
no it was crazy i mean

952
00:34:23,200 –> 00:34:28,240
that that explains that the process was

953
00:34:27,040 –> 00:34:30,000
was

954
00:34:28,240 –> 00:34:32,399
was they were not prepared to know if

955
00:34:30,000 –> 00:34:34,240
they were not prepared for this or what

956
00:34:32,399 –> 00:34:35,839
what the hell happened it was sort of a

957
00:34:34,240 –> 00:34:37,839
show

958
00:34:35,839 –> 00:34:40,000
to alberto the investigation went wrong

959
00:34:37,839 –> 00:34:41,440
in a million ways the police weren’t

960
00:34:40,000 –> 00:34:42,960
knowledgeable enough on how to handle

961
00:34:41,440 –> 00:34:44,399
this case and didn’t take all the

962
00:34:42,960 –> 00:34:45,919
evidence and they handled the evidence

963
00:34:44,399 –> 00:34:47,440
poorly like they didn’t clone the

964
00:34:45,919 –> 00:34:49,200
laptop’s hard drives and said they just

965
00:34:47,440 –> 00:34:51,280
turned it on to take a look at it in

966
00:34:49,200 –> 00:34:52,879
fact i talked to alberto for hours and a

967
00:34:51,280 –> 00:34:55,119
lot of what he had to say was just about

968
00:34:52,879 –> 00:34:56,879
how this case was handled so improperly

969
00:34:55,119 –> 00:34:59,040
which is probably why in the end they

970
00:34:56,879 –> 00:35:00,800
cut the wrong guy he sometimes wonders

971
00:34:59,040 –> 00:35:02,480
if all this was just done to set him up

972
00:35:00,800 –> 00:35:04,400
and have him arrested for some other

973
00:35:02,480 –> 00:35:06,400
reason he’s got a few theories about

974
00:35:04,400 –> 00:35:07,680
this like maybe it was a big cover-up

975
00:35:06,400 –> 00:35:09,760
from something else bigger and more

976
00:35:07,680 –> 00:35:11,760
shady going on at the medical facility

977
00:35:09,760 –> 00:35:13,359
and they needed to distract the media

978
00:35:11,760 –> 00:35:15,040
but these are just conspiracy theories

979
00:35:13,359 –> 00:35:17,040
cooked up in the mind of a guy who’s

980
00:35:15,040 –> 00:35:18,880
been sitting in prison for months

981
00:35:17,040 –> 00:35:20,640
after alberto was convicted and sent to

982
00:35:18,880 –> 00:35:22,480
prison the police couldn’t find any

983
00:35:20,640 –> 00:35:24,640
evidence on his girlfriend so they let

984
00:35:22,480 –> 00:35:26,960
her go after one night in jail and rough

985
00:35:24,640 –> 00:35:29,280
questioning she had a very traumatic

986
00:35:26,960 –> 00:35:31,520
situation she started taking a lot of

987
00:35:29,280 –> 00:35:33,920
medication to sleep

988
00:35:31,520 –> 00:35:36,240
she was having a very bad time she has

989
00:35:33,920 –> 00:35:38,320
never take any medication in her life

990
00:35:36,240 –> 00:35:40,079
for anxiety i mean

991
00:35:38,320 –> 00:35:41,839
so but she started taking that because

992
00:35:40,079 –> 00:35:44,320
she couldn’t sleep at night

993
00:35:41,839 –> 00:35:46,880
i mean they told her so many lies about

994
00:35:44,320 –> 00:35:49,359
me so she was thinking to herself

995
00:35:46,880 –> 00:35:51,440
i spent eight years with a person i

996
00:35:49,359 –> 00:35:54,000
didn’t know anything about she was a

997
00:35:51,440 –> 00:35:55,760
criminal i mean she she was questioning

998
00:35:54,000 –> 00:35:58,480
everything because they were lying to

999
00:35:55,760 –> 00:36:00,480
her they were telling her

1000
00:35:58,480 –> 00:36:02,240
all kinds of stupid things

1001
00:36:00,480 –> 00:36:03,920
that

1002
00:36:02,240 –> 00:36:07,119
destroyed her

1003
00:36:03,920 –> 00:36:10,560
including the fact that i said that

1004
00:36:07,119 –> 00:36:12,400
they told her i said that i i admitted

1005
00:36:10,560 –> 00:36:15,200
everything and that she was in charge of

1006
00:36:12,400 –> 00:36:16,960
everything that was crazy i mean

1007
00:36:15,200 –> 00:36:18,640
they played with her mind the worst

1008
00:36:16,960 –> 00:36:21,440
thing that they did was that they

1009
00:36:18,640 –> 00:36:23,599
threatened her with losing her show that

1010
00:36:21,440 –> 00:36:24,400
is the the most important thing that she

1011
00:36:23,599 –> 00:36:26,160
has

1012
00:36:24,400 –> 00:36:28,560
if she loses her job she loses

1013
00:36:26,160 –> 00:36:32,320
everything and

1014
00:36:28,560 –> 00:36:34,960
she has they called the her company and

1015
00:36:32,320 –> 00:36:37,359
they told the the boss of the company

1016
00:36:34,960 –> 00:36:39,920
about the situation so

1017
00:36:37,359 –> 00:36:42,720
she had a very difficult issue that she

1018
00:36:39,920 –> 00:36:44,800
told me that still until now she has

1019
00:36:42,720 –> 00:36:47,599
nightmares and

1020
00:36:44,800 –> 00:36:50,240
very recurrent nightmares that she she

1021
00:36:47,599 –> 00:36:53,119
is sleeping and she dreams that

1022
00:36:50,240 –> 00:36:55,599
she’s been arrested that the doors of

1023
00:36:53,119 –> 00:36:57,280
her apartment is open that is the police

1024
00:36:55,599 –> 00:36:59,920
that she’s going to

1025
00:36:57,280 –> 00:37:01,440
that she’s taken to to to a shell to a

1026
00:36:59,920 –> 00:37:03,040
cell so

1027
00:37:01,440 –> 00:37:06,400
i was pretty sad when i heard that

1028
00:37:03,040 –> 00:37:07,440
because it’s been more than a year and

1029
00:37:06,400 –> 00:37:08,480
she’s still

1030
00:37:07,440 –> 00:37:10,880
having the

1031
00:37:08,480 –> 00:37:13,680
the consequences of of the dramatic

1032
00:37:10,880 –> 00:37:16,400
interrogation process that they

1033
00:37:13,680 –> 00:37:18,400
apply on her

1034
00:37:16,400 –> 00:37:20,160
after eight years of being together this

1035
00:37:18,400 –> 00:37:22,160
incident caused alberto to lose his

1036
00:37:20,160 –> 00:37:24,000
girlfriend this was simply too much of a

1037
00:37:22,160 –> 00:37:26,160
bad experience for her and she had to

1038
00:37:24,000 –> 00:37:27,839
leave him to go help herself

1039
00:37:26,160 –> 00:37:29,520
as of right now alberto has only been

1040
00:37:27,839 –> 00:37:31,119
out of prison for five months and is

1041
00:37:29,520 –> 00:37:32,720
still working with his lawyer to collect

1042
00:37:31,119 –> 00:37:34,880
the evidence of what they took from his

1043
00:37:32,720 –> 00:37:36,720
apartment the police have kept most of

1044
00:37:34,880 –> 00:37:38,560
it still including some bitcoin wallets

1045
00:37:36,720 –> 00:37:40,240
which have a lot of money in them

1046
00:37:38,560 –> 00:37:42,160
in fact life is very hard for him

1047
00:37:40,240 –> 00:37:43,760
because most of his computers phones and

1048
00:37:42,160 –> 00:37:45,359
money and credit cards are still being

1049
00:37:43,760 –> 00:37:47,359
kept from him for instance all his

1050
00:37:45,359 –> 00:37:49,280
two-factor authentication tokens are in

1051
00:37:47,359 –> 00:37:51,359
police custody making it impossible for

1052
00:37:49,280 –> 00:37:52,800
him to log into certain accounts but

1053
00:37:51,359 –> 00:37:55,440
there have been a few things that have

1054
00:37:52,800 –> 00:37:58,480
gone his way since getting out after i

1055
00:37:55,440 –> 00:37:59,599
got released it was incredible i got job

1056
00:37:58,480 –> 00:38:00,720
offers

1057
00:37:59,599 –> 00:38:03,280
from

1058
00:38:00,720 –> 00:38:06,720
an important security company for a pen

1059
00:38:03,280 –> 00:38:10,400
testing position in a security company

1060
00:38:06,720 –> 00:38:13,040
it was something that i lived and okay

1061
00:38:10,400 –> 00:38:15,839
okay life goes on i’m stronger than ever

1062
00:38:13,040 –> 00:38:18,320
i could spend eight months in jail so if

1063
00:38:15,839 –> 00:38:20,720
i could do that i could do anything in

1064
00:38:18,320 –> 00:38:22,800
life that’s the way i see it this whole

1065
00:38:20,720 –> 00:38:25,520
story certainly puts alberto in a really

1066
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weird situation he absolutely has all

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the opportunity capability and know-how

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to commit this crime which is what was

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used to convict him but what really made

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him look bad in court was all the hacker

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stuff he had like the rubber ducky the

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anonymous mask and the hacker t-shirts

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and stickers and it poses a question to

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me at least why do security

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professionals who are there to stop

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hackers embrace the hacker culture

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i’ve spent my whole professional career

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keeping hackers out of my clients

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networks so you’d think that i would

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absolutely abhor the hacker communities

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and would work towards breaking them up

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but instead i love going to hacker

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conferences where i get to meet

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seriously scary hackers and swap tactics

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and skills with them i blog about how to

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hack and teach others and i wear hacker

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shirts myself so why do i play on both

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sides of the fence i’m not exactly sure

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i guess it’s the same reason why law

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enforcement likes watching bloody and

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violent movies or why that firefighter

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that lives down the street from me has

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stickers of flames on his truck because

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fire’s badass we all got into these

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professions because it’s exciting to be

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so close to the action and the only way

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to be effective at stopping it is to

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embrace it and to be part of it as ric

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flair once said to be the man you gotta

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beat the man or this one from the

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godfather he taught me

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keep your friends close

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put your enemies closer and this one

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there is no teacher but the enemy or

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rage against the machine saying

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[Music]

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or this quote from mr robot the devil

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isn’t as strong as well we’re looking

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00:39:51,440 –> 00:39:55,280
the other way

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to truly stop hackers we must become

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hackers the very thing we hate and the

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thing that scares us the most

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and because of this philosophy it’s a

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thin gray line between an illegal hacker

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and a security professional it’s not

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that easy to just call someone good or

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bad we all have a little bit of both

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inside of us

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but the truth is nobody should be

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convicted of a crime because of what

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stickers they have or clothes they wear

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they should only be convicted because

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they actually committed a crime and in

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alberto’s case the justice system wasn’t

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prepared and had a predetermined idea of

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what a hacker looks like and wasn’t

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capable of looking at the evidence with

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clear eyes

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00:40:30,000 –> 00:40:33,280
in some ways illegal hackers and

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security professionals are long lost

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00:40:33,280 –> 00:40:38,319
twins we have the same skills and the

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00:40:35,760 –> 00:40:39,920
same endless curiosity and in many cases

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00:40:38,319 –> 00:40:41,680
we look the same

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00:40:39,920 –> 00:40:43,839
i guess it’s one of those relationships

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00:40:41,680 –> 00:40:45,520
that’s truly complicated

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00:40:43,839 –> 00:40:47,760
and too complicated for this judge in

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00:40:45,520 –> 00:40:49,680
uruguay to fully understand

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00:40:47,760 –> 00:40:51,599
as for alberto he learned a valuable

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00:40:49,680 –> 00:40:53,920
lesson from all this the thing is that

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00:40:51,599 –> 00:40:56,079
after i got released i found two

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00:40:53,920 –> 00:40:57,839
critical security problems in two

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00:40:56,079 –> 00:41:01,200
systems uh

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00:40:57,839 –> 00:41:03,280
okay i just found them and i closed my

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00:41:01,200 –> 00:41:06,800
i took a snapshot and i closed the

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00:41:03,280 –> 00:41:08,880
computer and i say okay

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00:41:06,800 –> 00:41:11,200
and there’s no way i’m going to report

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00:41:08,880 –> 00:41:14,079
this i mean of course i was connecting

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00:41:11,200 –> 00:41:17,040
with a vpn and a proxy

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00:41:14,079 –> 00:41:18,880
so you have to be lucky to to trace me

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00:41:17,040 –> 00:41:20,800
there’s no way i’m going to report them

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i i turned off the computer and went to

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well and i slept like a baby i mean i’ve

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00:41:23,440 –> 00:41:27,920
learned my lesson

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no not anymore

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[Music]

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you’ve been listening to darknet diaries

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00:41:37,040 –> 00:41:40,560
alberto is now working towards changing

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00:41:38,880 –> 00:41:42,160
the legislation in his country to

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00:41:40,560 –> 00:41:44,160
prevent situations like this from

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00:41:42,160 –> 00:41:46,000
happening again in the future he’s got a

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00:41:44,160 –> 00:41:47,119
petition going to help make changes and

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00:41:46,000 –> 00:41:48,720
you can find links to that at

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00:41:47,119 –> 00:41:50,240
darknetdiage.com

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00:41:48,720 –> 00:41:51,839
he’s currently writing a book about his

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00:41:50,240 –> 00:41:52,800
experiences so look for that in the

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00:41:51,839 –> 00:41:54,160
future

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00:41:52,800 –> 00:41:55,680
oh you may have heard ads in this

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00:41:54,160 –> 00:41:57,760
episode and wonder what’s up with that

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00:41:55,680 –> 00:41:59,839
when i also take donations the truth is

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00:41:57,760 –> 00:42:01,599
right now i need both and i hope someday

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00:41:59,839 –> 00:42:03,280
i’ll be able to go back to being ad-free

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00:42:01,599 –> 00:42:04,960
but the donations right now just aren’t

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00:42:03,280 –> 00:42:06,560
enough to make that a possibility but

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00:42:04,960 –> 00:42:08,079
the more you donate and share this show

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00:42:06,560 –> 00:42:10,480
with your friends the faster i can go

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00:42:08,079 –> 00:42:12,319
back to being an every podcast i do have

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00:42:10,480 –> 00:42:13,760
plans to giving more rewards to patreon

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00:42:12,319 –> 00:42:16,400
supporters so look for that in the

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00:42:13,760 –> 00:42:18,960
future too the show was created by me la

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00:42:16,400 –> 00:42:21,040
sombra jack reciter and the theme music

1181
00:42:18,960 –> 00:42:22,460
is made by the phantasmic brickmaster

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cylinder

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you